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Crom The Pale · Jul 30, 2008, 11:49 PM // 23:49

There are quite a few skills that Wars have that could have Cracked Armor conditoin added to them to make them more usable.

[power attack] currently very underused, adding Cracked armor would make this a very powerfull skill.

[Soldier's Strike] could also add it.

[Desperation Blow] and [Drunken Blow] ABSOLUTELY should have this condition added to the list they can cause.

Rhamia Darigaz · Jul 30, 2008, 11:56 PM // 23:56

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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

There are quite a few skills that Wars have that could have Cracked Armor conditoin added to them to make them more usable.

[power attack] currently very underused, adding Cracked armor would make this a very powerfull skill.

[Soldier's Strike] could also add it.

[Desperation Blow] and [Drunken Blow] ABSOLUTELY should have this condition added to the list they can cause.

energy attack skills on a war that aren't [bull's strike] or [crushing blow]? /EPICFAIL!!
maybe cracked armor isn't meant to be on wars. [distracting strike] is stricly worse than [distracting shot] because anet intentionally made rangers better at interrupting than wars. wars are meant to do big domage, and they already do that. if you really need cracked armor put it on your midline, they're there for things like that

Sage Tylos · Jul 31, 2008, 12:09 AM // 00:09

[lightning orb] vs. [lightning orb (pvp)]... typing that doesn't work lol, needs to be updated...
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Lightning_Orb
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Lightning_Orb_%28PvP%29
If you're only concerned with PvE, they could easily add the cracked armor effect to a couple skills for PvE only, like orby there.
also, typing [cracked armor] doesn't work either

the savage nornbear · Jul 31, 2008, 12:12 AM // 00:12

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Originally Posted by Kain Fz

, then I assume distracting shot should also require cracked armor because both of them are basically the same skills with one requiring cracked armor and the other doesn't?

shhh...
You're right though. Getting hit with hammer would make a dent in anyones armor. Warriors are the most logical armor crackers in the game, so /signed.

Rhamia Darigaz · Jul 31, 2008, 12:58 AM // 00:58

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Originally Posted by the savage nornbear

shhh...
You're right though. Getting hit with hammer would make a dent in anyones armor. Warriors are the most logical armor crackers in the game, so /signed.

what makes sense when considering how classes would work irl isn't necessarily best for balancing the game. cracked armor is just a name to give the mechanic some kind of flavor, its not meant to make you think "oh, im weilding a hammar, shuldnt i be able to crak this mofo's armor?"

pumpkin pie · Jul 31, 2008, 02:18 AM // 02:18

some armor should not be cracked in my opinion, how do you crack a silk clothing? :P

MagmaRed · Jul 31, 2008, 02:23 AM // 02:23

This is a game not meant to be played solo. Since you have anywhere from 3-7 other people on your team for general PvE and PvP, and up to 11 other people for elite missions, you have other sources for Cracked Armor.

Elementalist, Necromancer, Ritualist, and Mesmer all have ways to supply Cracked Armor to an enemy. If Cracked Armor is something that is needed for your build, and you can't fit a skill to provide it in your build, ask a team mate to supply it. If you can't coordinate with the people you are playing with, you need to learn how to play a cooperative game. If you are using heroes+hench, then you need to learn how to create builds for an entire team with synergy.

Arkantos · Jul 31, 2008, 02:45 AM // 02:45

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My point? What were they thinking!?!?!??
It is bad enough we need a cracked armor condition, but the fact we must waste our secondary just to revolve around that one skill to apply cracked armor and interrupt?

Class synergy.

Remember kids, Guild Wars is a team game. Not every class can do everything, which is why you need team work. Skills like distracting strike and body blow are promoting co-ordination and team play, which is a good thing.

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Warriors should be the most likely to expect applying cracked armor to foes because of the concepts of a warrior's "strength" breaking the enemy's armor. Yet, I've looked through all their skills, and they CANNOT!

You can't apply logic in a fantasy game.

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Things need to be changed or buff distracting strike -.-

No they don't, and no it shouldn't.

Rhamia Darigaz · Jul 31, 2008, 02:58 AM // 02:58

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

some armor should not be cracked in my opinion, how do you crack a silk clothing? :P

if you really must get into the fantasy behind the mechanics that's still not an inconsistency. silk clothing=60al=unaffected by cracked armor

Dr.Jones · Jul 31, 2008, 04:58 AM // 04:58

i think adding it to [cleave] would add a buff to a skill that is old and not relay used anymore

Rhamia Darigaz · Jul 31, 2008, 05:30 AM // 05:30

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Originally Posted by Dr.Jones

i think adding it to [cleave] would add a buff to a skill that is old and not relay used anymore

what's the point though? warriors don't need to be able to apply cracked armor themselves.
edit: also i wouldn't drop eviscerape for cracked armor

MisterB · Jul 31, 2008, 06:06 AM // 06:06

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Originally Posted by Dr.Jones

i think adding it to [cleave] would add a buff to a skill that is old and not relay used anymore

I think that would be a terrible idea.

That would make [Cleave] + [Body Blow] the same as having both [Cleave] and [Eviscerate] on one bar.

[[Cleave] is fine; it doesn't need a buff.

Dr.Jones · Jul 31, 2008, 06:44 AM // 06:44

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Originally Posted by MisterB

I think that would be a terrible idea.

That would make [Cleave] + [Body Blow] the same as having both [Cleave] and [Eviscerate] on one bar.

[[Cleave] is fine; it doesn't need a buff.

wut? cracked armor is different then deep wound and you would only do -2 less damage. also anet would correct that. also isnt that already what eviscerate already is with out the cracked armor?

Elder III · Jul 31, 2008, 06:54 AM // 06:54

give me cracked armor as a PVE only skill - that way those that say it is "unbalancing" don't have to worry about it in PVP and those that say it "just makes sense for a warrior to crack armor" can have it for dungeons or mob slaughter etc... Simple solution, but personally I don't give a hoot either way.

Hugh Manatee · Jul 31, 2008, 07:10 AM // 07:10

I like how people are acting like you can't take skills from a secondary profession...

Rothan Celt · Jul 31, 2008, 07:22 AM // 07:22

/signed

I understand where you are coming from a Proffession should be able to use there own skills without the help of a 2nd proffession. But skills such as DS could be a call to mix and match more

I still use Shell shock a lot on my warrior.
*BAM Lightning strike Big ass hammer COming At CHA! uff* <3

Arkantos · Jul 31, 2008, 07:23 AM // 07:23

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Originally Posted by Elder III

give me cracked armor as a PVE only skill

[finish him] says hi.

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I understand where you are coming from a Proffession should be able to use there own skills without the help of a 2nd proffession.

Why? Guild Wars is a TEAM BASED game. Being a team based game, you're going to have to rely on your allies as well as yourself. You rely on your party member with cracked armor to apply it on your enemy just like you rely on your healer to keep your team alive, MM to get minions up, damage dealers to kill enemies, etc. There's absolutely nothing wrong with this, because Guild Wars is a team based game (I really cannot stress this enough).

the Puppeteer · Jul 31, 2008, 08:59 AM // 08:59

Oooh - so warriors now need a skill for cracked armor eh? WITHOUT taking a secondary proff?.... well
[Piercing Trap], [Body Shot], [Chest Thumper], [Aura Slicer] say hi too

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Originally Posted by Kain Fz

Warriors should be the most likely to expect applying cracked armor to foes because of the concepts of a warrior's "strength" breaking the enemy's armor. Yet, I've looked through all their skills, and they CANNOT!

Warriors logically apply Cracked armor? Does the ele spell fireball blow crap up forever? Does burning actually make your char burn it's skin off? Walking in hot lava? - no prob!
Just go with a second proff and quit QQ

MagmaRed · Jul 31, 2008, 09:23 AM // 09:23

[awe]
Give Paragon a way to knock a target down too then.

Tyla · Jul 31, 2008, 01:34 PM // 13:34

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Originally Posted by The Puppeteer

Warriors logically apply Cracked armor? Does the ele spell fireball blow crap up forever? Does burning actually make your char burn it's skin off? Walking in hot lava? - no prob!

I want to actually chop people's heads off with Decapitate too.